I remember at 16 years old, I counseled one of my best guy friends' parents about their marriage. They were considering divorce...and have now been married 40 something years!
From childhood, I was told that I was an "old soul". I question A LOT. I read A LOT. I beat myself up WAY TOO MUCH. Or sometimes, I try to get myself out of the way and let thoughts come to me.
But still, advice is usually given from the standpoint of putting myself in your shoes. What that means is that I'm also throwing my experience and perspective in there too. Which means that my advice may not be right for you, but it is what I think I would do.
At this point in my life, with all that I've experienced, I notice that I tend to offer advice without even being asked. And I'm not sure that's a good thing.
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Everything that I blog about from sex, relationships, fitness, health and spirituality are all things that I need to learn or things I feel that I am beginning to figure out for myself. My blog is an advice column for ME. However, when it helps others, I feel a whole lot less alone in the world.
Thank you all for letting me know when it does help.
I've also noticed that when I or someone else is experiencing a low, I do my best to be encouraging and positive. I am giving the advice that *I* would like to receive.
Remember: We teach what we need to learn.
What I've found is that not everyone responds well to the "advice" I'd offer myself.
Some people want to be encouraged.
Others want to be validated in their misery.
If I look at myself in my own low moments, I understand this. Often, I realize that I'm *choosing* to feel bad or that I *want* to wallow in victimhood. In those moments, I may fight a different perspective. It really is up to me to (once again) allow myself to feel better. Sometimes a word of encouragement is that trigger. Other times, the trigger may be to step outside of myself by busying my mind with something else... like laughter.
"Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human face."
~ Victor Hugo
I am also learning that others simply want someone to listen and stay quiet. I am doing my best to offer that. I certainly don't believe that my answer or advice is always the best advice. Again, my advice has a huge bias.
And quite frankly, I am more than willing to be wrong.
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I think my first reaction is to encourage and not commiserate because I try not to see people or myself as victims. Though, on the other hand, I know we sometimes feel that way.
Yes, there are things that happen to all of us that downright suck.
Yes, there are times when we need to wallow in it and feel bad about it. (Me too!)
But do people really want it to be the truth about themselves?
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My daughter Rose has been playing this role lately. When she gets in trouble, she declares, "I am the worst kid ever!"
Lately, I've called her bluff by saying, "OK."
She gets furious!
"Why are you agreeing with me Mommy?!"
That's when I ask her, "Do you really believe you are the 'worst kid ever'?"
Of course she says no.
"Then stop declaring that you are unless you want other people to believe that about you."
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Personally, I appreciate when someone disagrees with me on my victimhood. I find it empowering to know that I can change how I look at this. I can't change what's happening. And perhaps I also can't judge it.
Maybe this is a very good thing?
Maybe there's a beauty in this that I'm not seeing?
Maybe this is a dark night of the soul with an amazing forward step to my growth and potential?
"Take the ingredients you already have and make the best meal you can."
~ unknown
How else is it going to change if I continue to give it the power over me? Once I release it, give it up, see it differently, then it changes.
"Things don't change just because you hold on to them. They change when you let go."
~ unknown
I believe there is power in someone seeing you beyond the battle that you're fighting. However, I am not beyond changing the outward show of support people in my life who ask me for advice.
It just may or may not always be what you want to hear.
How do YOU feel when I offer advice to you? How do you wish to be treated in your low moments?
"Be kind for everyone you meet is fighting a great battle"
~ Plato
"Our lives are not determined by what happens to us but how we react to what happens; not by what life brings to us, but by the attitudes we bring to life. A positive attitude causes a chain reaction of positive thoughts, events and outcomes. It is a catalyst, a spark, that causes extraordinary results."
~ in a card from PT-Law Mom that stays on my fridge and taken from the book, The Resiliency Advantage by Al Siebert
Personally, I like to be called out and made to see another side or perspective. I find it very refreshing and helpful in my personal growth. I would have to say it is one of my better traits is that I and not stuck on one belief. I can listen to other perspectives and learn from it.
ReplyDeleteI do come to you for advise because I know that you will be honest even if it hurts a little.
You can always throw your 2 cents in to me. I may tell you to fuck off, but I will always listen to what you have to say before I mock you!!!
ReplyDeleteExcellent post!!!
ReplyDelete"My advice is to start drinking heavily..."
It's weird, but the one thing I've learned about giving advice is who I should and shouldn't give it to---that's a tricky feat. I've gotten MUCH better at it...???
I think I need to start taking the same approach you take with your daughter with my oldest son, who constantly says things like, "I'm the stupidest kid in the class..." It gets me so down to hear it.
ReplyDeleteI too have always been the go to guy. I don't know why either. Especially if the "rock" is needed. Crying chicks find me everytime, I duno why, hell doods too.
ReplyDeleteAnyway I see it as a blessing because I feel like I am helping folks.
I give them the truth as far as I believe it and often, very often I hope I am wrong. Definitely on politics, but I rarely am. Sucks sometimes because the questions they ask I wouldn't have thought of then when I study it I feel down because I can see clearly where it is headed.
I think I tend to get caught up in being fair, in trying not to make waves, in keeping the peace.
ReplyDeleteI need my friends and those I seek advice from to push me sometimes, to let me know when it's okay not to always be the peace keeper or the soother.
More than anything else I just want honesty delivered with a bit of kindness :)
But do people really want it to be the truth about themselves?
ReplyDeleteGenerally, no. Because then they might have to face a reality they're not ready to face.
But the friends I'm closest to are the ones who shoot straight from the hip with me, and with whom I can do the same. I don't need a Yes Man! I wrote about that once. Sorry; shameless self-promotion alert: (http://blogs.marinij.com/katwilder/2009/07/girlfriend_intervention.html)
I love that you say that the advice we give is the help we ourselves need. I always think the kid(s) we get (personality-wise) goes directly to the issues we're still working out!
So, advise away, T; you are so insightful and reflective that I would always listen ...
Advice can be very hard to take from others! And yet... if people don't hear it, will they ever change?
ReplyDeleteYou are right that some want encouragement, some want to wallow in their victim-hood. Others actually want some advice - i.e. they want to hear a different approach.
Plato's advice is good.
What a great perspective. Thanks for sharing it.
ReplyDeleteWe all like our pity parties, sometimes, but it's true. When someone calls us on it, it may hurt.. or not be what we want to hear, but USUALLY (for me) it motivates me out of it. :)
People dont actually want to hear the truth (and I include myself here because I am also guilty of this) - I have actually started to stop offering advice. I get too caught up in their problems that if affects me!
ReplyDeleteI also do that with my kids and they both get mad but it is a good lesson :)
i have to admit that i am molto sensitivo when it comes to advice--unless i specifically ask for it. usually, unsolicited "suggestions" are either things i already know (and have been struggling with myself) or they're way off base.
ReplyDeletethere are a few close friends, though, whose advice i seek out. they have the experience, wisdom, and insight to set me straight on whatever is muddling me. i don't know what i would do without these moments of clarity.
btw an example of how you give "advice" even by just writing about your own experiences--my latest post refers to your pms post, which you said was just for yourself, but which was really helpful to me, too!
Awesome post, T!
ReplyDeleteI don't give advice anymore. I've had it blow up in my face one too many times. I'll gladly take some good sound advice from someone though.
And I have been told more than once, that I'm an old soul. Looks wise, people think I'm younger than I am. Personality wise, they usually add another 3 - 5 years to my age.
personally, I love your advice ;-)
ReplyDeleteBut, to your point, I am similar to you, in not wanting to commiserate, per se, but to encourage and help give some perspective to whaever the situation is. Sometimes it's hard to give perspective, or to have it, for anyone else's situation, but that's usually the most useful advice...at least for me.
I recently gave my friend some advice on some choices she was making and she got sooo mad at me. She wants her friends to just support everything she does. Sorry, I can't do that. If I see you making a mistake, I'm going to speak up. And I would hope she would do the same for me.
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